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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:58 am 
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So this law was passed years ago ? It's even on Aruban web sites and Aruban newspapers that the palapas are coming down ? Yet there are palapas on all the beaches in Aruba ? :lol: Funny !


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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:32 am 
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As with the beach just north of the Costa Linda fence line there is a (government affiliated) snack shack / beach seating/shade rental shop doing business for two or three years now. The staff there installs and removes colored umbrellas as needed when cruise ships are in port and taxis/buses, etc. bring cruisers to that hunk of Eagle Beach.
Install, rent out, remove as needed. For money.

So, the plan to remove all the wooden poles with palm frond roofs (palapas!) can only lead to the introduction of more of these non permanent umbrellas which can be installed, rented out, and removed as needed on all the resort beach portions of Eagle Beach! For money!

That certainly could be a part of their thinking.

Yet another way to squeeze tourists out of yet more money.

The bit about 'view' is hogwash! The Aruban residents can go to any beach they want. There's a pretty long stretch of Eagle Beach, now with more and improved parking, available now for anyone. Is that not enough? "View" my foot! They should have thought about "view" 25 years ago.
This is all about MONEY..... more money! Like the "Sin Tax". I'll tell you what the "SIN" is in that picture!

I'm afraid this could be some sort of final straw!

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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:51 am 
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The aloe man is behind the idea of removing huts so he can sell more aloe for sunburn!


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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:16 am 
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leftyjy you are sooo right.

I have stayed at the Bucuti and the Divi Golf and while there walked Eagle Beach and maybe I am wrong (never) but Eagle Beach has no where near what you would find on Palm Beach. Some of the resorts on PB forget about the view you can't see the sand.

Does this mean that they remove all the palapas and the answer is that the resort staff every day will take hours installing umbrellas and then hours taking them down each day. Fair to say that most of the big resorts along PB have a hundred or more palapas now.

Step back folks. It ain't never going to happen and if it did it would take years.

But just in case I found a 2 foot 3 inch suitcase sized beach umbrella under 3 lbs. on line. I may just buy one and try it out this December.

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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:34 am 
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Comedy Central :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I agree with, the Aloe Man, being behind this devious plot :lol: it makes perfect sense behind the idea, capitalism 101 :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
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Is the guy still around. Last December 11 days with my skinny white butt sitting on the beach he never came by.

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arubajoey wrote:
Is the guy still around. Last December 11 days with my skinny white butt sitting on the beach he never came by.

he's still around. although, i heard he had some health issues that he has apparently overcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
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Lets make one thing perfectly clear(at least IMO :wink: ) this is 100% about money and always has been. The government is currently in "talks" with hotels and timeshare resorts. They want to charge them to put the papalas on the beach as they continue to build beach bars/restrooms all over the beaches. Oh, and BTW, you have to pay to pee!!! They are also building new palapas on other beaches so to say it is for the view, not buying it for a second. No matter what happens, they will be making money from the result. Either the resorts cave and pay fees or they sell new licences for vendors to sell umbrellas, they get paid!


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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:13 am 
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I have had a change of heart.

Let's set the palapa's free. Why should they be stuck in place. Were they not once living things that were ripped from their roots and taken away to be planted so that people can hang things from them. Even though I am sure they get some pleasure as people fight over then every day when do they get a day off. When it rains we run under them yet they bear the brunt of the storms. They put up with birds nesting and making noise all the time.

So folks lets all give a big shout out to the papalas and next time you get a chance walk over to one and thank it and give it a big hug. In fact do it when people you don't know are under it.

I for one are going to contact the Aruban Government and thank then for what they are planning.

Who out there is with me?

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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
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Yes and like a true Socialist state they will get around to it in the next 20 years :lol: Sorry The planning will take 20 years 8) The implementation ? If it's anything like Quebec :shock: our grand children's grand children will be under umbrellas.


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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
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I hope you are right. I figure to have another useful 5-8 years and after that no one will want to bring me to Aruba even if I pay for everything. I'd be a burden. So, if you're right and the palapas do stay put awhile I'm happy. I'll pay all the BBOs, Sin taxes, WEB surcharges, tourism taxes, and all that crap they can create. But leave the beach alone! There's plenty 'nuff for everybody.

If they yank them palapas, well, like I said, it could be the last straw for me. I love the beach all day every day. No complications. No nutty rules! Get a palapa, sit under it all day, go back to the unit for the evening. Nice.

I'm not going to stand in some line, early in the morning, in the sun, every day waiting for some guy(s) to dig little holes, plant a pretty pastel colored umbrella, have them deliver a couple folding beach chairs, and have to suffer that system for the rest of my Aruba life. Uh, uh! No way! We've been talking about Myrtle Beach since the Aruba government started getting all grabby and illogical. I could drive to it! No worries about Jet Blue releases and price hikes, and will they have my Drambuie at the Dufry! I'll buy it home and drive it down with me.

"I have a plan!" I'll show them!

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leftyjy I hope you have many more years in beautiful Aruba ! I was taking my mom to Aruba when she was 90 years old and we loved it !!!


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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
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Thanx for the nice thoughts!

But if Aruba removes all the palapas on the beach(es) I'm not going to deal with whatever rinky-dink system they use to replace them.

I'm going to wait to see just how this plays out and when. Maybe nothing will happen. Maybe they'll go thru with their plan. Time will tell.

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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
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I might be in the minority here, but I really see no issue with thinning out the palapas. Has anyone seen the sturdy umbrellas they rent out on other beaches in Aruba? Really not aesthetically displeasing IMHO. They can also mandate that they be set up away from the palapas.....and of course removed at night. I would even do this on Palm beach to restore some open beach area above the high water mark. This would go hand in hand with enforcing the palapas/beach being public property rule. No more reservation, or renting out palapas etc..... The beach umbrellas, now they would be a different story-rented out by whomever on a daily basis as needed. Then the people who monopolize Palm/Eagle would be on par with the people who go to other beaches.

Of course I am also a proponent of the "Playa Aruba" area closer to town that would attract many of the day tourists away from Palm and Eagle.


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 Post subject: Re: Palapa Removal????
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:12 pm 
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Just as an after-thought to the palapa/umbrella "debate".
Unless the umbrella's are "anchored" deep enough, the wind might end up blowing them away. Example: In Gloucester. MA. yesterday a 13 yr. old was impaled by the pointed end of the umbrella that the wind blew out of its hole in the sand. The teen was punctured in the left shoulder, but is doing okay.
This may be a rare incident, but it is something to think about when umbrella's are being used; they must be dug into the ground deep enough to resist the wind blowing them away. Which could happen in Aruba, as well as other islands.
And I remember when we stayed at the Wyndham (now Riu Antilles) in the early 2000's; the wind would blow the lounge chairs around. So you can imagine what happens with umbrella's that are not anchored deep enough.
My "vote" is to keep the palapa's and work out a reasonable policy that serves positively the vacationer's, hotel and government. I know I need the shade the palapa provides, which is more than the umbrella provides.

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