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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:55 am 
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I take a look at the Casa del Mar Beach cam every now and then and I have noticed that most mornings there is no one on the beach. Is there something unattractive about that beach that might be preventing people from using it? It's going on 10:00 a.m. right now and there's no one on the beach. This is not an unusual sight.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:41 am 
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It's called Covid-19 fallout.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:16 pm 
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Sad. I hope Aruba can reinvent itself. My first thought is to have the Aruba government collaborate with some of the colleges and businesses here in the states. Doing what, I don't know. Aruba could certainly start a world class training course for waiters, waitresses, and bartenders. For the most part these Aruba hospitality workers certainly know how to treat their customers. Agriculture. Maybe something to do with hydroponics. Anybody else have any input?

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The vast majority of people don't want to travel . Tourism is dead right now , it's crazy .


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I have been going to Aruba for over 30 years. Not going next year not only because of the virus but especially how the government is ripping off the tourists with this "Covid insurance" for visitors. They have probably collected over $2 million and may have had to outlay a very minute portion of that!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:14 pm 
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I have been going to Aruba for over 30 years. Not going next year not only because of the virus but especially how the government is ripping off the tourists with this "Covid insurance" for visitors. They have probably collected over $2 million and may have had to outlay a very minute portion of that!!


A great observation.

They collect the money from tourists under the guise that it will be used for the tourists Covid-19 coverage but only a handful have gotten it. Tourists are paying for the medical expenses and coverage of the 2,000+ and growing Arubans who have Covid.

I think we all knew this was going to be a scam.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:29 pm 
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Of course it was a scam, they have to make money back some how.They are dropping it 30% :lol: Bargain at $10 per day :lol: While all their people are infecting visitors :evil: Who would have thunk that! Hey, they tried. Until they drop this silly testing, they will starve.


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scam ? How dare you ! I call it socialism :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:26 pm 
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Back to the topic at hand, folks:

CDM's beach is sometimes a real beach with an adequate amount of sand to walk around between the palapas and to walk into the water. Other times the water line is a long row of large jagged rocks used to keep the sand from washing away. And at both of those times there is a never ending active rolling wave action that a lot of folks probably won't attempt to walk thru or wade in. I look in at their web cam maybe a few times a week so I know what you mean about lack of beach goers. We usually go to Matthew's for dinner a couple of times during our trip to Aruba and have watched some folks attempt to go in the water and turn back due to the waves.

That's my take on the in-activity in the waters at CDM.

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CDM is reporting present occupancy at around 35%. Why would the beach be crowded?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:45 am 
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arubajoey wrote:
plraymond wrote:
I have been going to Aruba for over 30 years. Not going next year not only because of the virus but especially how the government is ripping off the tourists with this "Covid insurance" for visitors. They have probably collected over $2 million and may have had to outlay a very minute portion of that!!


A great observation.

They collect the money from tourists under the guise that it will be used for the tourists Covid-19 coverage but only a handful have gotten it. Tourists are paying for the medical expenses and coverage of the 2,000+ and growing Arubans who have Covid.

I think we all knew this was going to be a scam.


It's the same as any other insurance that you buy. You have auto, home and health insurance, so just because you dont crash your car and collect money that makes it a scam. It's for just in case, unfortunately you don't have a choice on these types of insurance.

But you do have a choice on the Aruba insurance...don't go. It's insurance for you and them, U.S. health insurance doesn't cover it in Aruba they don't have the funding to cover the costs associated with the care involved. So wether you like it or not it's here for the time being. So make your own personal choice, pay it and enjoy Aruba or don't and wait until things hopefully get back to normal.

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DeanandNancy wrote:
But you do have a choice on the Aruba insurance...don't go. It's insurance for you and them, U.S. health insurance doesn't cover it in Aruba they don't have the funding to cover the costs associated with the care involved. So wether you like it or not it's here for the time being. So make your own personal choice, pay it and enjoy Aruba or don't and wait until things hopefully get back to normal.


That's partially incorrect because I have medical insurance that DOES cover it/me when I am traveling out of the country so I shouldn't have to pay additional if I can prove I have valid medical insurance.

Having said that, I am still planning on going for 3 weeks in November and will pay it. It is what it is and I need a vacation.

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My question.

Do Aruban citizens pay for insurance or is it free. If free how about making them pay if they get it.

As for the mandatory insurance as far as I know I have never heard what it really covers. I know they were quick to put limits on it. Where am I to be housed on the island. What about food, travel companion, etc

DeanandNancy you are right about ones insurance policies but I bet you know what your policies do and do not cover. All I know is it's $10.00 (or so) a day per person with a limit of $75,000 and there is a hotel somewhere (maybe). So what happens if you eat up the $75,000 medical Covid expenses? Or you have to stay beyond your vacation time due to getting Covid.

I have no problem paying but what do I get for it.

Anyone know?

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Joey im sure you probably already saw this but here's the link for the insurance. https://www.arubavisitorsinsurance.com/ . I would guess locals regular insurance would cover them the same as ours would if we were to get sick at home. I can understand the island being overly cautious based on what they saw in the US and other countries. Being such a small country without alot of resources i don't blame them for not wanting to drown in paperwork. I think its great that they are lowering the cost based on what they are seeing.

I have no problem taking their insurance. I also always get insurance from Allianz. That policy does spell everything out and I know that between both I am covered for whatever I need while i'm away. For me its piece of mind, but then im solo so the cost isn't overwhelming. I can see how it could affect families.

So now that you got me off topic.....i could only guess that covid has everything to do with the beaches being empty.

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Amy: Does your medical insurance pay for isolation in a non hospital setting? Curios.

Joey: Aruban citizens pay for their health insurance . When working I 'think' their employer also contributes for them. What the citizens pay is based on their income.

I do not believe the hotel where tourists who test positive while here are housed has been announced for many many reasons.

If you test positive while here you may have to stay beyond your vacation limit....what airline is going to let you on the plane while you are sick??

I am not doing the work to find out what the mandatory insurance covers but I believe it was listed somewhere early on. As to the $75,000 likely it would be enough...medical costs here are far far less than USA.

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