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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:32 pm 
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The St Regis Aruba & Casino

The government has announced today that Desarollos Hotelco Development, Marriott International Inc, and Caledonia properties
have agreed to construct a brand new 202 hotel room and 20 residences on the small fenced vacant terrain between the RIU
hotel & Casino and the Aruba Divi Phoenix Resort on the Palm Beach strip. It took several months of hard renegotiation with
the developers, as initially the attention was to construct a 400 room timeshare hotel under the Westin brand in the category
three to four stars.

The government has managed to convince the developer to reduce the amount to 222 rooms. In addition, the government
requested for the property to be a five star property, non timeshare, and non all inclusive of the highest Marriott brand. It is
agreed that The St Regis will be operating the the property once it is completed in 2021. The St Regis Aruba will include a
casino, a spa, three restaurants, in addition to pools and bars.

The construction is to start in the first quarter of 2019, and will take two years for completion. The existing public park,
basketball court, and public parking will remain for locals. One of the requirements of the government is to have the existing
park, and parking facilities upgraded, which the developer agreed on.

The construction is valued at 160 million US dollars. When completed the hotel will employ 400 persons.

The St Regis Aruba & Casino is the second hotel of the The St Regis brand in the Caribbean.


3,200 new hotel rooms in the pipeline are being renegotiated by the new government

The government of Aruba is aware of the growing concern in the Aruban community of more hotel rooms on the island. The
government shares this concern as well. At present there are several hotel projects in the pipeline with a total number of 3,200
hotel rooms awaiting construction in Aruba. All these projects were committed by previous governments to investors,
and some investors were even granted terrain.

The new government installed as of November 2018 is renegotiation with the investors to have the number of new hotel rooms
reduced to a minimum. In addition the investors have to meet with the standards set by the government for high quality
accommodations in so to attract the more affluent visitors, Aruba's target group at present. The government wants to see
some projects cancelled, and in some instances would have to battle it out in court to overturn some of the commitments.
It is a difficult procedure, but the aim is to find a good balance of development on the island.

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The Sands on Eagle Beach with almost 600 condominiums was put on hold early this decade. Now
the government is renegotiating with the developer to have the number of unit for this project
significantly reduced to around 200.



Moratorium on the horizon

The government will soon announce a new hotel on one of the last lots on Eagle Beach. The terrain was set for the construction
of The Sands Resort with almost 600 condominiums years ago. That project was put on hold by the developer during the financial
crisis that started in 2008. Now the government is in the final stages of renegotiation with the developer to have the number of
condominiums reduced to around 200 units.

Finally, the government is planning to have a moratorium set by law on the island particularly for the western half of Aruba which
will included the total maximum carrying capacity of Aruba.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:50 pm 
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Eddy wrote:

[b]Moratorium on the horizon

Finally, the government is planning to have a moratorium set by law on the island particularly for the western half of Aruba which will included the total maximum carrying capacity of Aruba.


Of all eddy wrote this is the funniest thing he wrote.

In 1999 I was in a cab on my way to the Hyatt from the airport and it had been 20 years since I was there and the driver said there was a building moratorium and there would be no more building just renovating existing properties. Well we all know that was BS.

Will this moratorium apply to malls. Did they really need to build a giant mall next to the other giant mall on Palm Beach.

Finally how do you Eagle Beach snobs feel now. You were all so quick to knock Palm Beach and complain about the overbuilding and that "would never happen on Eagle Beach". Yes I accept your apology.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:53 pm 
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On the one hand more space will put pressure on prices, on the other it will ruin the distinct character of Eagle beach. More high end properties? Is the Ritz running at full occupancy?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:31 pm 
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Eddy wrote:
The St Regis Aruba & Casino

The government has announced today that Desarollos Hotelco Development, Marriott International Inc, and Caledonia properties
have agreed to construct a brand new 202 hotel room and 20 residences on the small fenced vacant terrain between the RIU
hotel & Casino and the Aruba Divi Phoenix Resort on the Palm Beach strip. It took several months of hard renegotiation with
the developers, as initially the attention was to construct a 400 room timeshare hotel under the Westin brand in the category
three to four stars.

The government has managed to convince the developer to reduce the amount to 222 rooms. In addition, the government
requested for the property to be a five star property, non timeshare, and non all inclusive of the highest Marriott brand. It is
agreed that The St Regis will be operating the the property once it is completed in 2021. The St Regis Aruba will include a
casino, a spa, three restaurants, in addition to pools and bars.

The construction is to start in the first quarter of 2019, and will take two years for completion. The existing public park,
basketball court, and public parking will remain for locals. One of the requirements of the government is to have the existing
park, and parking facilities upgraded, which the developer agreed on.

The construction is valued at 160 million US dollars. When completed the hotel will employ 400 persons.

The St Regis Aruba & Casino is the second hotel of the The St Regis brand in the Caribbean.


3,200 new hotel rooms in the pipeline are being renegotiated by the new government

The government of Aruba is aware of the growing concern in the Aruban community of more hotel rooms on the island. The
government shares this concern as well. At present there are several hotel projects in the pipeline with a total number of 3,200
hotel rooms awaiting construction in Aruba. All these projects were committed by previous governments to investors,
and some investors were even granted terrain.

The new government installed as of November 2018 is renegotiation with the investors to have the number of new hotel rooms
reduced to a minimum. In addition the investors have to meet with the standards set by the government for high quality
accommodations in so to attract the more affluent visitors, Aruba's target group at present. The government wants to see
some projects cancelled, and in some instances would have to battle it out in court to overturn some of the commitments.
It is a difficult procedure, but the aim is to find a good balance of development on the island.

Image
The Sands on Eagle Beach with almost 600 condominiums was put on hold early this decade. Now
the government is renegotiating with the developer to have the number of unit for this project
significantly reduced to around 200.



Moratorium on the horizon

The government will soon announce a new hotel on one of the last lots on Eagle Beach. The terrain was set for the construction
of The Sands Resort with almost 600 condominiums years ago. That project was put on hold by the developer during the financial
crisis that started in 2008. Now the government is in the final stages of renegotiation with the developer to have the number of
condominiums reduced to around 200 units.

Finally, the government is planning to have a moratorium set by law on the island particularly for the western half of Aruba which
will included the total maximum carrying capacity of Aruba.


Eddy how many hotel rooms are on the island now ?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:22 am 
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happyt1 wrote:
On the one hand more space will put pressure on prices, on the other it will ruin the distinct character of Eagle beach. More high end properties? Is the Ritz running at full occupancy?



The Ritz is doing quiet well right now.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:26 am 
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kris02420 wrote:
Eddy wrote:
The St Regis Aruba & Casino

The government has announced today that Desarollos Hotelco Development, Marriott International Inc, and Caledonia properties
have agreed to construct a brand new 202 hotel room and 20 residences on the small fenced vacant terrain between the RIU
hotel & Casino and the Aruba Divi Phoenix Resort on the Palm Beach strip. It took several months of hard renegotiation with
the developers, as initially the attention was to construct a 400 room timeshare hotel under the Westin brand in the category
three to four stars.

The government has managed to convince the developer to reduce the amount to 222 rooms. In addition, the government
requested for the property to be a five star property, non timeshare, and non all inclusive of the highest Marriott brand. It is
agreed that The St Regis will be operating the the property once it is completed in 2021. The St Regis Aruba will include a
casino, a spa, three restaurants, in addition to pools and bars.

The construction is to start in the first quarter of 2019, and will take two years for completion. The existing public park,
basketball court, and public parking will remain for locals. One of the requirements of the government is to have the existing
park, and parking facilities upgraded, which the developer agreed on.

The construction is valued at 160 million US dollars. When completed the hotel will employ 400 persons.

The St Regis Aruba & Casino is the second hotel of the The St Regis brand in the Caribbean.


3,200 new hotel rooms in the pipeline are being renegotiated by the new government

The government of Aruba is aware of the growing concern in the Aruban community of more hotel rooms on the island. The
government shares this concern as well. At present there are several hotel projects in the pipeline with a total number of 3,200
hotel rooms awaiting construction in Aruba. All these projects were committed by previous governments to investors,
and some investors were even granted terrain.

The new government installed as of November 2018 is renegotiation with the investors to have the number of new hotel rooms
reduced to a minimum. In addition the investors have to meet with the standards set by the government for high quality
accommodations in so to attract the more affluent visitors, Aruba's target group at present. The government wants to see
some projects cancelled, and in some instances would have to battle it out in court to overturn some of the commitments.
It is a difficult procedure, but the aim is to find a good balance of development on the island.

Image
The Sands on Eagle Beach with almost 600 condominiums was put on hold early this decade. Now
the government is renegotiating with the developer to have the number of unit for this project
significantly reduced to around 200.



Moratorium on the horizon

The government will soon announce a new hotel on one of the last lots on Eagle Beach. The terrain was set for the construction
of The Sands Resort with almost 600 condominiums years ago. That project was put on hold by the developer during the financial
crisis that started in 2008. Now the government is in the final stages of renegotiation with the developer to have the number of
condominiums reduced to around 200 units.

Finally, the government is planning to have a moratorium set by law on the island particularly for the western half of Aruba which
will included the total maximum carrying capacity of Aruba.


Eddy how many hotel rooms are on the island now ?


The room inventory count in Aruba stands at 8,715 rooms, of which 3,440 timeshare units and 5,275 hotel units. Concentrated mainly on Eagle Beach, Palm Beach, Noord, and Oranjestad. This figure is excluding accommodations such as Air BnB, other house rentals, and purchased condominiums being rented out by the owner.


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arubajoey wrote:
Eddy wrote:

[b]Moratorium on the horizon

Finally, the government is planning to have a moratorium set by law on the island particularly for the western half of Aruba which will included the total maximum carrying capacity of Aruba.


Of all eddy wrote this is the funniest thing he wrote.

In 1999 I was in a cab on my way to the Hyatt from the airport and it had been 20 years since I was there and the driver said there was a building moratorium and there would be no more building just renovating existing properties. Well we all know that was BS.

Will this moratorium apply to malls. Did they really need to build a giant mall next to the other giant mall on Palm Beach.

Finally how do you Eagle Beach snobs feel now. You were all so quick to knock Palm Beach and complain about the overbuilding and that "would never happen on Eagle Beach". Yes I accept your apology.


Actually there was a moratorium set for Eagle Beach and Palm Beach 20 years ago but it was softened by the previous governments amid the closure of the refinery and the rise of unemployment.

It was a very bad idea to build malls and move nightlife into Palm Beach in the first place, that has costs Oranjestad alot of life.


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eddy is obviously a loyal Aruban who loves his country. He is also a guy that looks at the fact that without a strong economy that Aruba is a nice arid island in the Caribbean. What makes his economy strong. JOBS. On an island that exports nothing it survives on imports. What are the imports? PEOPLE. Folks from the US, Canada, Europe and South America.

If you want these PEOPLE to come then they must have a place to stay. More rooms mean jobs in construction, then jobs for staffing and more rooms mean more people can come.

There is no downside right?

WRONG!

I visit Aruba once a year for 11 days. I rent a car, stay at a timeshare and I think I am a fairly observant guy. The place is way overbuilt already. You have traffic all the time, poor one lane roads many of which are still dirt roads, power outages all the time, crowded beaches, garbage dump filled and taxes being raised it seems on a daily basis for both the residents and visitors.

So in eddy's world bigger is better. But as the old saying goes. "Be careful what you wish for. You just may get it" eddy.

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As long as sargassum or seaweed situation continues for most of the Caribbean , it's safe to say the islands that are not affected will need more hotel rooms .


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Eddy wrote:
kris02420 wrote:
Eddy wrote:
The St Regis Aruba & Casino

The government has announced today that Desarollos Hotelco Development, Marriott International Inc, and Caledonia properties
have agreed to construct a brand new 202 hotel room and 20 residences on the small fenced vacant terrain between the RIU
hotel & Casino and the Aruba Divi Phoenix Resort on the Palm Beach strip. It took several months of hard renegotiation with
the developers, as initially the attention was to construct a 400 room timeshare hotel under the Westin brand in the category
three to four stars.

The government has managed to convince the developer to reduce the amount to 222 rooms. In addition, the government
requested for the property to be a five star property, non timeshare, and non all inclusive of the highest Marriott brand. It is
agreed that The St Regis will be operating the the property once it is completed in 2021. The St Regis Aruba will include a
casino, a spa, three restaurants, in addition to pools and bars.

The construction is to start in the first quarter of 2019, and will take two years for completion. The existing public park,
basketball court, and public parking will remain for locals. One of the requirements of the government is to have the existing
park, and parking facilities upgraded, which the developer agreed on.

The construction is valued at 160 million US dollars. When completed the hotel will employ 400 persons.

The St Regis Aruba & Casino is the second hotel of the The St Regis brand in the Caribbean.


3,200 new hotel rooms in the pipeline are being renegotiated by the new government

The government of Aruba is aware of the growing concern in the Aruban community of more hotel rooms on the island. The
government shares this concern as well. At present there are several hotel projects in the pipeline with a total number of 3,200
hotel rooms awaiting construction in Aruba. All these projects were committed by previous governments to investors,
and some investors were even granted terrain.

The new government installed as of November 2018 is renegotiation with the investors to have the number of new hotel rooms
reduced to a minimum. In addition the investors have to meet with the standards set by the government for high quality
accommodations in so to attract the more affluent visitors, Aruba's target group at present. The government wants to see
some projects cancelled, and in some instances would have to battle it out in court to overturn some of the commitments.
It is a difficult procedure, but the aim is to find a good balance of development on the island.

Image
The Sands on Eagle Beach with almost 600 condominiums was put on hold early this decade. Now
the government is renegotiating with the developer to have the number of unit for this project
significantly reduced to around 200.



Moratorium on the horizon

The government will soon announce a new hotel on one of the last lots on Eagle Beach. The terrain was set for the construction
of The Sands Resort with almost 600 condominiums years ago. That project was put on hold by the developer during the financial
crisis that started in 2008. Now the government is in the final stages of renegotiation with the developer to have the number of
condominiums reduced to around 200 units.

Finally, the government is planning to have a moratorium set by law on the island particularly for the western half of Aruba which
will included the total maximum carrying capacity of Aruba.


Eddy how many hotel rooms are on the island now ?


The room inventory count in Aruba stands at 8,715 rooms, of which 3,440 timeshare units and 5,275 hotel units. Concentrated mainly on Eagle Beach, Palm Beach, Noord, and Oranjestad. This figure is excluding accommodations such as Air BnB, other house rentals, and purchased condominiums being rented out by the owner.


So Eddy your telling us or more so the Aruba Gov't is telling someone there gonna add 3200 hotel rooms to the 5,275 that you say already exist a 60% increase added onto what they have now ? We know there expanding the airport by a few gates and doing road work, but where will Aruba find workers ?????? to work at these hotels and restaurants let alone sewer and water. The airport is packed on a good day now we're adding 2/3 more people !!!!!


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arubajoey wrote:
Finally how do you Eagle Beach snobs feel now. You were all so quick to knock Palm Beach and complain about the overbuilding and that "would never happen on Eagle Beach". Yes I accept your apology.


Don't speak so quickly my friend. Paradise Beach Villas is in the works to add a Phase 3 to their resort. To which I am totally against for the record!!!

Aruba is busting at her seams!!! :(

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After taking some years off to see some new places, we went back to Aruba 2 years ago, and are going this year. We noticed how much it had changed in 5 years, and I'm sure we will notice even more in the last 2. Sadly, this will probably be the last time we go to Aruba because it has become so overcrowded, and overbuilt. It's just not how I want to spend my hard earned vacation. :cry:

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kris02420 wrote:
So Eddy your telling us or more so the Aruba Gov't is telling someone there gonna add 3200 hotel rooms to the 5,275 that you say already exist a 60% increase added onto what they have now ? We know there expanding the airport by a few gates and doing road work, but where will Aruba find workers ?????? to work at these hotels and restaurants let alone sewer and water. The airport is packed on a good day now we're adding 2/3 more people !!!!!


Actually, according to what Eddy has posted, the government "inherited" plans to add 3200 hotel rooms, and is instead currently negotiating with those (promised) hoteliers to reduce that number. They have already had some success on the piece of land under discussion, going from a 600 room to a 200 room property.


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The original article has been re-posted three times in this thread. Kind of excessive given the length of the original post. I get the usefulness of being able to re-show the article in a separate post but such a lengthy piece to be said over and over ….and over again for a third time??? :roll:

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Nothing new for this forum , probably why no one comes on or posts any longer . They hunger for a post on anything and when that's done its torn apart . Thanks Eddy for coming back and trying .


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