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 Post subject: More hotels coming?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:55 am 
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http://www.vacationsbyaruba.com/news-updates-in-aruba/

Looks like there will be more hotels coming in the near future.


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 Post subject: Re: More hotels coming?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:02 pm 
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I read the same article. That end of the island can use it but the rarity of beaches in that area is a concern. Also the Mango area with all that traffic is sure to be hurt.


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 Post subject: Re: More hotels coming?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:23 pm 
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The buffoons in office believe that adding more hotel rooms will solve their fiscal problems. They fail to realize that adding thousands of more rooms will mean additional costs, in terms of infrastructure and manpower. It is not a panacea, but rather a disease.

They are killing the "golden goose" of tourism with overcrowding, increasing taxes and horrible congestion at the airport. People will begin to vacation elsewhere, and what was once a beautiful island will turn into just another overcrowded, overly expensive place.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:53 am 
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Very interesting and disputed topic.

My wife and I just returned from Aruba where we reminisced about what Aruba was like in 1983 during our first visit. Small, quaint and so much more simple back then. Over the years, we have seen the growth and hoped that this was all for the good of the country and people.

We spoke with a man who helps operate the Lighthouse tours, and he boasted of the billions of dollars being invested to make Aruba the premier island in the Caribbean. Everything from dredging for larger and more cruise liners, to more luxurious hotels to road infrastructure. Later in the week, we spoke with a very popular local gentleman who stated that many pleaded with the government back in 1995 to slow down. He seemed very down about the future of his country's destiny. His final thoughts were "It is too late now to turn back."

Sure over time things will and must change no matter where you live in the world. But alas, will greed and ill-minded government officials take this piece of paradise on earth and spoil its natural God-given beauty. I pray not.

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Kind of reminds me of an article I just read a couple of weeks ago regarding one of Thailand's very popular beaches - now closed for a few months a year because of destruction by tourism.

Full article at link:
https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainme ... a-breather

BANGKOK (AP) — The daily hordes of tourists have exhausted the Thai beach made famous by the Leonardo DiCaprio movie.

Maya Bay, on Phi Phi Leh island in the Andaman Sea, will be closed to all visitors for four months annually starting this June to allow for the recovery of the battered coral reefs and sea life. The decision to keep visitors away was made Wednesday by Thailand's National Parks and Wildlife Department.

"It's like someone who has been working for decades and has never stopped," said Thon Thamrongnawasawat, a prominent marine scientist and member of Thailand's national strategy committee on environment development. "Overworked and tired, all the beauty of the beach is gone. We need a timeout for the beach."

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 Post subject: Re: More hotels coming?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:27 am 
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The sad part is that the majority of people I talk to in Aruba want the building to stop but no one listens to the little guy. For the first time since 1994, I am really considering a future without Aruba in it. MF's continue to rise every year, taxes for staying at the timeshare continue to rise, airfare increases and now sales tax goes up. It was never a cheap vacation to begin with. I know we are only 2 people, but what happens when the return travelers stop returning? They always say there will be someone else to replace us, but what if there is not? How long do you think the island could survive a downturn because lets be honest, if things went south, places like the Marriott will be the first to head for the hills. We are only there for one, two, three weeks out of the year. Imagine living there and seeing what is happening and there is not a thing you can do.......


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Perhaps we're all looking through the same prism but through different facets of that same prism. Mary and I visit AUA twice a year. We notice the changes, sure, but don't let the changes bother us. We live in a four season resort area and don't cotton to visitors telling us what they think we should do to make their visits better. This same philosophy colors our opinion of how AUA is being developed.

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Perhaps we are overreacting a bit to Angelo's update. He mentions a replacement for the old Bushiri hotel and a 60 unit over the water development.


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I read that the old Bushiri site was not going to be built on but rather be developed into a beach area for all.
Now they are going to build? What a shame.
And I don't get this; they want more and bigger cruise ships and hotels, but where are you going to put all those people? Fixing up Bushiri to be another beach is badly needed for all.
I really didn't think this govt. was going to be like this; stupid and greedy.


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I am mainly bothered by the Isla Ora plan. This is protected wetland. They should not be allowed to build there. Very idiotic plan in my opinion.

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When my husband dives or I snorkel in Bonaire, we must purchase a pass ($35 and $25 respectively). The organization that protects the reefs and dive sites does a great job and it is obvious from the condition of the coral and the variety of fish. We have seen a steady decline in the quality of both diving and snorkeling over the year in Aruba. Part of this is due to weather but mostly it is due to overuse. People do not know and are not instructed in the proper protection of the natural environment. It is a shame and is devaluing Aruba.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:21 am 
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murphy wrote:
When my husband dives or I snorkel in Bonaire, we must purchase a pass ($35 and $25 respectively). The organization that protects the reefs and dive sites does a great job and it is obvious from the condition of the coral and the variety of fish. We have seen a steady decline in the quality of both diving and snorkeling over the year in Aruba. Part of this is due to weather but mostly it is due to overuse. People do not know and are not instructed in the proper protection of the natural environment. It is a shame and is devaluing Aruba.


What has happened to ALL of the popular reefs in Aruba is CRIMINAL and they will continue to be abused until they are just a pile of rocks. Just like the everything else in the world today, nobody really gives a damn. Let the tourist trample what is left, encourage feeding the fish human food and soon there will be nothing left but rocks and sand. I find it pathetic the government tries to blame the destruction of the coral on spear fishermen. Is it possible they are that clueless? I guess the irresponsible tourist trampling across coral with fins on while leaving a bread trail does much less! Sorry for the rant but this gets my heart rate up! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: More hotels coming?
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Anyone remember the "Moratorium" on constructing new oversized lodging whether hotels or condos a bunch of years ago? The ink of the signatures was still wet while the then new Oceania and Sands were being built. Throw in a Ritz and a Blue Water (I think there's one) and all sorts of luxury proposals in and around Palm and Eagle beaches and keep adding all the customers....fat wallet tourists.

Then there are all the quick builds proposed for San Nicolas and all the new found beauty over there. Where? Not for me, thanks. But there will be droves of folks who will go there, for sure.

Looking at the on line airport log of yesterday there were 27 inbound flights. Twenty-Seven!! Oh, and have you watched the video in the airport website showing the "2030 Project"? If you do then consider that new $50 additional cost tacked on to your airplane ticket and to all the tickets of all the passengers on each of those 27 inbound flights..... every day!! That's a lot of money! Our money!

You can chide the governments of today and of the last several years for raising the prices of everything all you want but you're only kidding yourself when you think you honestly think they're killing the so called 'golden goose'.
Nah. We'll keep coming back year after year and gripe about each and every new pick-pocket scheme they come up with to have us pay for all their miss-management of monies.

And, AND for every one of us who does actually go on 'strike' against Aruba and not go back there will be five or more others who will beat a path to the timeshare we vacated or the hotel/tourist relationship we've abandoned.

So, give up the crying and 'P & M' about all the governmental flaws and tourist gouging. Save your energy and eliminate stress. They do not care one bit about any of it.

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 Post subject: Re: More hotels coming?
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Arubadan wrote:
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When my husband dives or I snorkel in Bonaire, we must purchase a pass ($35 and $25 respectively). The organization that protects the reefs and dive sites does a great job and it is obvious from the condition of the coral and the variety of fish. We have seen a steady decline in the quality of both diving and snorkeling over the year in Aruba. Part of this is due to weather but mostly it is due to overuse. People do not know and are not instructed in the proper protection of the natural environment. It is a shame and is devaluing Aruba.


What has happened to ALL of the popular reefs in Aruba is CRIMINAL and they will continue to be abused until they are just a pile of rocks. Just like the everything else in the world today, nobody really gives a damn. Let the tourist trample what is left, encourage feeding the fish human food and soon there will be nothing left but rocks and sand. I find it pathetic the government tries to blame the destruction of the coral on spear fishermen. Is it possible they are that clueless? I guess the irresponsible tourist trampling across coral with fins on while leaving a bread trail does much less! Sorry for the rant but this gets my heart rate up! :lol:



What I have found in the last couple years is that the number of boats going out to the various sites has increased quite a bit. The popular spots can get quite crowded. This is in the off season too. The result has been that the better snorkeling is now in deeper water where it is not possible to stand on corals/rocks etc...... I would have no problem with some sort of organization educating tourists on better interaction with the marine life.
Pet peeve-people with metal detectors who go out into the water should be escorted to the airport and put on a plane asap. The wetter the better.
Why not a "look, don't touch" awareness campaign?


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